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August 8, 2012

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Credit Exchange Rate Edit

In Mass Effect 2, at the Zakera Cafe, Mass Effect: Ascension can be purchased for 5 credits. In the real world, the book costs 7.99 USD. From this, we can determine that 1 credit is equal to 1.598 USD. It turns out even fictional currency is doing better than the American dollar. Arbington (talk) 18:16, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

cool. I dont really think thats the best way to solve it as prices in real world change constantly for books but for now that will work. at least until we can get a hold of the creators and see what they say. In case you were wondering I am not saying you are wrong I would just like a second opinion and a somewhat more reliable way of figuring it out if you get what I mean. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 18:43, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

The book has been out for four years. The price on the back says $7.99, and that's still the price of the book today on Amazon. This means that, in today's currency, that's the exchange rate. I don't really know another way to find the rate, and I doubt this is a high-priority issue for the devs. Arbington (talk) 18:48, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Talk Pages Edit

Wow, two things about this about this in one day, let alone a half hour. I will not continue to violate site policy by continuing that conversation there. It doesn't matter what other wikis do, what matters is that this is the Mass Effect Wiki, not any other wiki, and our policies are the only ones that matter here. What other wikis do and what they advice is completely irrelevant here. The topic that you started on the talk page is not appropriate there and it will not be permitted to continue. That topic belongs in the forums here not on the talk page. Lancer1289 (talk) 18:45, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

again if you paid attention to my previous post on the talk page I even said that they told me that the subject doesnt belong on the forums and to just post it on the talk page. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 18:59, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

You have made a grand total of five edits here, three on the Credits talk page, and two on your talk page. You have never posted in the forums here so your entire comment is either based off of "advice" you got on another wiki, which is irrelevant here since our policies aren't the same as theirs, or you are trying to feed me a bogus story. Either way, I could not find a page on our forums about that topic anyway. I should point out that I don't like being fed bogus stories or people trying to force use to abide by policies that don't exist here because they don't like something. We have our policies and when you edited here, you agreed to abide by them. So far, you haven't and you continually attempt to force us to accept policies from another wiki, or wikis, which have no impact, relevance, or anything else here. Lancer1289 (talk) 19:09, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

not a bogus story. I was told by an admin (I do not remember which one) that it was not a relevant thing to post in the Forums but to post it in the talk page and then they told me that they had deleted my post because it was irrelevant. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 19:16, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

(EDIT CONFLICT) Whoever told you that was wrong. The talk page is for discussion of article content only, and not general discussion of the article's topic. The forums would have been the appropriate place for your question, or perhaps a blog post. Maybe you posted in the wrong forum? That happens quite often to people on any website. I hope that this hasn't caused any serious problems. Arbington (talk) 19:10, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

I dont remember who told me. all I remember is that it was an admin as I clicked on there profile and it said admin on it. and no I was in the right forum I made sure of that so it wasnt a problem. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 19:16, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'm detecting more and more problems with your story because no admin here would have said that. So you are either again trying to force us to accept policies from other wikis, which again have no impact here, or you are not telling the whole truth. I'm starting to detect deceit here, and it is leaving a foul taste in my mouth. Lancer1289 (talk) 19:21, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

(EDIT CONFLICT)I do seriously doubt your story, as Lancer is correct about the number of edits you've made. If you have a problem with our policy, however, please remember that this wiki is a democratic quasi-meritocracy. Feel free to offer your own alternative policy in the forums. I doubt seriously that you'll be able to drum up much support for a change as to the purpose of talk pages, but you're free to make an attempt. Arbington (talk) 19:23, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

not lying. an admin seriously told me that. they could have had a lapse of judgement or just forgot or something I mean they are human it is bound to happen. anythings possible. just because they are admins doesnt mean that they dont make mistakes or that they are always right. just saying. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 19:26, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

The problem with your story is that, looking at your contributions page, you've never edited any page other than your talk page and the Credits talk page. You've never edited a forum, nor communicated with any users prior to your Credit edit. Arbington (talk) 19:29, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

there could be a glitch in your system. I know that happens a lot. sometimes information doesnt show up until a couple days later other times it never shows up. glitches and viruses and such can do that (trust me I have worked with computers and done extensive research so I know what I am talking about) probably just a glitch or something. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 19:33, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Funny, I too have worked extensively with computers. I've also worked extensively with Wikia. And this would be the first time that anything remotely like the glitch you're talking about would have happened. So, either a system which has worked perfectly fine for years without so much as a hiccup has suddenly become extremely faulty, or a person on the internet is lying. One of these things is decidedly more likely than the other, yeah? Arbington (talk) 19:36, August 8, 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict x3)There is no glitch. There is only the facts. The facts do not support you in any way, shape, or form. I'm am convinced that this is just a made up story and you are just trying to say that "someone with authority" said you could do something against site policy. Well, I'm done with it. Unless you can present evidence to support your claims, I will cease commenting here because I do not like being fed false stories or outright [redacted].
Here are the facts:
  • You have never edited here before today
  • There is no forum page anywhere on this wiki about this topic
  • Your story has more holes than Swiss cheese
  • Your own Contributions don't support your story
  • You keep making things up to patch holes in your story
  • Contributions don't glitch unless it is affecting the entire wiki, which would create other glitches
Bottom line, you have zero evidence to support your claims and I'm sick of it. I will no longer comment until you can present evidence of your claims. Until then, good day. Lancer1289 (talk) 19:38, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

hey its totally possible even something that seems perfect has its flaws. just because something hasnt had a problem or whatever in a while doesnt mean that it isnt ever going to have a problem. and those glitches do exist as I am sure you are well aware. so isnt it totally possible that a glitch or virus could have done this? like IDK someone code it into a post then delete the post or something it can be done. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 19:41, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

If you won't buy into the probability argument, I've got another way to prove your statements false. When were you told by an administrator to have a casual conversation on a talk page? As in, what date, or a timeframe, or something of that nature? Arbington (talk) 19:45, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

This is still going? --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie 19:46, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

first off the words casual conversation were never used. secondly it was fairly recently I dont remember the exact date or time frame though because I am a busy person and it didnt seem like something that I would need to remember as I need to save memory for other things that I have to do. sometimes I do get some free time like now but for the most part I am pretty busy and dont have time to remember time frames and such unless it applies to my work or something important and as I mentioned before it didnt seem important to remember the exact time frame. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 19:51, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Would you say it was less than two weeks ago? I just need something general here, no need for specifics. Arbington (talk) 19:54, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

maybe. not sure. like I said I am a busy person and dont remember stuff like that. but it is possible that it was about 2 weeks ago or so. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 19:58, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Certainly no more that three weeks though? That would be a pretty big jump from your two week estimate. Arbington (talk) 20:04, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

actually I just remembered I was using a friends account when I posted it on the forums and the admin told me that. but yes I do believe that it was about 2 weeks ago. so it was still me just not this account. so I wasnt lying. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 20:10, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, so now you were using a friend's account? Could you, by any chance, remember the name of that account? Arbington (talk) 20:12, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

no I dont actually. it was a one time thing and I never paid attention to the account name and even if I had I wouldnt remember it. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 20:15, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

How convenient.....--Legionwrex (talk) 20:17, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

(EDIT CONFLICT)That's alright, I don't really need that information. Over the course of the past two weeks, only two administrators here have been active: Lancer1289 and Commdor. Now, you've met Lancer, and he quite clearly had no memory of you whatsoever, and never advised that anybody use a talk page for casual discussion. That leaves only one administrator who possibly could've given you this faulty advice. I'm going to leave him a message, asking if, in the past two weeks, he ever had any contact with a user asking about USD-Credit exchange rates on the forums, and if he advised them to use the talk pages. If it turns out that he has not, then you must be lying. Arbington (talk) 20:25, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

that can be a somewhat faulty way of doing it. as they are admins and they have to have the whole thing running they are busy and dont have time to remember every single action they do and every single name they talk to. so it is possible that while they say they dont remember doing it that they could have and just not remembered or forgot or whatever. just saying that is a likely possibility. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 20:29, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

You have to understand, right now it sounds like you are caught in a web of lies, if you want to clear your name, couldn't you ask your friend what the name of his profile here is?--Legionwrex (talk) 20:32, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

(EDIT CONFLICT)I don't think that argument holds water, Lordofninjas. Administrators are the best of the best from an editing community, and I can easily remember every conversation I've held on this wiki in the past month or so, and I'm sure many other editors can as well. For an admin, reaching back two weeks should be a walk in the park. Arbington (talk) 20:34, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Still got some time before he replies, if you've got anything that you want to get out in the open. Arbington (talk) 20:49, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Commdor just replied and says he has no memory of anything like this....--Legionwrex (talk) 20:53, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

(EDIT CONFLICT) Nevermind, it appears we have a reply. And, by the way, it does not look good for you, Mr. Lordofninjas. Both administrators who've been active in the past two weeks have no recollection of any such forum post, and would never direct an editor to post their questions on a talk page. It is absolutely, incontrovertibly, 100%, crystal clear that you have lied. Arbington (talk) 20:55, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

except that I didnt. like I keep saying they just because they are admins doesnt mean that they will remember everything. you just happen to have the ability to. people forget things all the time its human nature. but just because you work with him and I am brand new you arent going to believe anything I say because you are stubborn and think you are right which you arent. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 20:58, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Lordofninjas1, are you talking about this question on the Mass Effect Answers wiki: How many credits would equal 1 american dollar? that you created on May 24? If so, I don't see anywhere they have advised you to use a talk page on this wiki. Trandra (talk) 21:09, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

(EDIT CONFLICT)You want more proof? Very well then, I can play that game. Look at the forums. Look at every board. Go through the entire, unabridged history of the forums stretching back to the founding of this wiki. There has never been a thread about USD-Credit exchange rates. Also, look at the contributions of every administrator on the wiki. They have never dealt with anybody asking these imaginary questions. In the tread Trandra has linked, which, mind you, is from a completely different wiki, nobody ever responded to you. There was never an admin who advised that you do anything. Furthermore, note that we are not accusing you of lying because you are new. I for one began our interactions by answering your question, and I explained to you that if you dislike this wiki's talk page policies you can petition to have them changed. Even now, I am remaining civil. These accusations come not because you are new, but because you actually are lying. It has been proven repeatedly. Arbington (talk) 21:13, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Mate, you are fighting a losing battle, there is no way you can get yourself out this. Bluegear93 (talk) 21:15, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

say what you want. I dont care. I know the truth. anyways even if I made a petition I know that it would only be a waste of my time so whats the point. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 21:19, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Buddy, if you come clean it's not like we're going to shun you, the reason people are acting this way is because you're not coming clean and lying to our faces.--Legionwrex (talk) 21:24, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

(EDIT CONFLICT)Yes, you do know the truth. You know it, I know it, and every editor on the wiki knows it. But you haven't said it yet. I've been out here, staunchly defending the truth, while you were hiding it from the world. The fact of the matter is, you lied. That's okay, everybody does it. But you need to own up to it. As for your petition, you're right that it likely would not pass. It is never, however, a waste of anyone's time to have their voice heard. If you see something that you think is wrong, it is your duty to speak out. Even if you're wrong about the aforementioned thing being wrong. Arbington (talk) 21:26, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

only problem is whenever I have tried to make my voice heard it never works and trust me I have tried my entire life. ive told people that things are wrong but everyone is far too stubborn to care or even listen to what I have to say at least from what I have encountered through experience. so whats the point it would only be a waste of my time. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 21:29, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

You've just got to present your arguments logically, with clear advantages to your side, and clear disadvantages to the other. Then, if you're right, people will listen. Arbington (talk) 21:32, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

I have. not necisarrily here but I have before and still nothing. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 21:34, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

I swore I wasn't going to do this, but since I've been told I'm the most blunt person here on multiple occasions, I will.
You are the only one here being stubborn and refusing to listen to anyone. You have been caught in one lie after another and it is just sickening that you keep denying it. That is just an arrogant attitude to have. If this conversation is any indication of the problems you keep having, you are the cause, not anyone else. The only experience here is that you were caught in a lie and are flat out refusing to admit it. That is what disgusts me. Everyone here can see that you are the one who has lied multiple times, created more lies to cover them up, then got caught in your own web. You need to learn, and quickly I might add, that you are not always right and that you are not perfect. You can be wrong, you can make mistakes, and this is not what you are seeing. The facts are against you in so many ways that you have no chance of winning.
Now I will no longer be monitoring or partaking in this discussion and I advice everyone else to do the same. Lancer1289 (talk) 21:37, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

(EDIT CONFLICT)Perhaps you should try it here then. We're a pretty friendly community, and we generally just want what's best for the wiki. We'll consider your proposition, and debate amongst ourselves to determine whether or not it is preferable to the status quo. In any case, you have not mentioned your rather blatant fib in the past few comments. Shall we take this silence to be a sign of your agreement with my arguments? Arbington (talk) 21:41, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

@Lancer:ok first off. just because you tell people not to talk in here doesnt mean they will listen. secondly I listen pretty well but it seems like the wikis and there admins dont seem to listen as they are stubborn and set in there ways and afraid of change. ok so I lied. big deal you've lied before too and I dont even know you and I know you have so its not a big deal. most of the time it is other people that cause it I do know that I sometimes do cause it but I know that a lot of the time its other people who start it and whatever. and I wasnt talking about this so that experience line doesnt work. I know that I am not always right but you need to learn that too and make your site more user friendly I was clearly in the right to post in the talk page for it and you know it also but your stupid "rules" made it impossible as I was just trying to be a nice guy and ask a simple question that YOU guys turned into this big argument. YOU need to learn some manners if anything and learn how to LISTEN when people try saying things the first time so we dont have these big arguments. just saying. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 21:49, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

@Arbington: how do I know that you arent lying about being a friendly community and how do I know that I can actually trust that you will actually look at my argument and actually consider it and not just blow it off because you think that it doesnt need to be changed. and I was trying to post something about it (kinda) but Editing Conflict happened. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 21:49, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to leave one last message here, and then I'm done. Lancer is correct, this conversation has dragged on for quite a while now. The rules are critical to maintaining order here. This is the best organized, best maintained, most factually correct wiki I've ever seen, and we've got a lot of rules and policies to thank for that. There's a system for everything, to ensure that everything runs smoothly. In fact, this is exactly why your proposal would not be ignored. There is a period of discussion, in which the proposal is amended according to community suggestions (or not, if you vehemently disagree with those suggestions), followed by a voting period which lasts a full week. There is a specific format that it all goes in, to make sure the process is smooth. As for making this wiki user-friendly, it already is. Had you started off here in any other way, this would've probably been a bit more clear. As for whether or not we're lying about our community friendliness, That's kind of up to you to find out. I can't formulate your opinion for you. Arbington (talk) 22:18, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

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