Talk:Eve

Eve's death

While uploading the cure, Mordin told me that Eve died because she made a decision involving some form of active combat (I forget exactly what,) and that the stress was too much for her to handle. Her death and subsequent funeral pyre didn't have any negative side effects for me aside from some dissent with the clans. They weren't fighting over control, though, so far as I can remember. Does anyone else also share this plotline?--Ocean Soul 07:43, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

I didn't actually. Mordin told me that she was fine, something about weak, but fine. I didn't really catch it; you know Mordin. But yeah, she survived, and apparently got together with Wrex. I have no idea what could've caused your ending though. I disarmed the Turian bomb, and told her about the Salarian dalatrass' proposed deal; did you do all that? Stormkeeper

Eve's real name

Should the article be named after Eve's real name, or is it too much of a spoiler? Will-O-Wisp

Propose a move and see what happens. Lancer1289 16:20, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

I don't want to. I'm not sure if the article's name is okay as it is or not, that's why I'm asking. Will-O-Wisp

Move Proposal

Making a proper proposal discussion point for it.

Part of me wants to say, 'yes, let's make it Bakara' even though we are introduced to her as Eve, named by Mordin since she's a shaman in the krogan culture.

Alternatively, I am pretty certain she does not become Urdnot Bakara until the genophage is handled, though she most certainly is Bakara, her name. She simply becomes part of the Urdnot Clan. Thoughts? --Aryn2382 04:34, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

From her familiarity with Wrex though, it seems to me that she was already from Clan Urdnot; admittedly she could simply have known him from his reputation. I am in favor of this; though it should be made known that she's also known as Eve; it could cause considerable confusion otherwise. Stormkeeper

I disagree for one reason: "Urdnot Bakara" is no longer her name; she surrendered it to become a shaman. Mordin Solus gave her the name "Eve" purely for convenience, yes, but it is used most often in the course of the game. I say keep it as "Eve", but allow for a redirect. Matt913 01:56, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Yet Urdnot Bakara becomes her name. Bakara is her birth name which she mentioned she might tell Shepard when things were done. Emails afterward--mind, contingent on survival--show that Shaman or not before, she is keeping her name. --Aryn2382 05:43, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

I disagree with the move as well. Even when she is referenced after Priority: Tuchanka, such as in e-mails, conversations between crewmembers, etc. she is still referred to as Eve rather that used her birth name.Garhdo 09:50, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

I am going to have to agree with this one. There will be a redirect anyway. Lancer1289 16:54, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

I'm strongly in favor of keeping this article title as Eve. Her revelation of the name is supposed to be one of the emotional rewards for the player after gaining her trust and curing the genophage. It feels so wrong to name the page that.More importantly, remember that you cannot learn her true name unless you actually save her (which means importing a save where you keep Maelon's data). That means plenty of players are going to know here as Eve until they play through with different decisions. Honestly, I think it's wisest to make her page title Eve and redirect from Bakara. That way, players who know her name and search for it end up at the page, and those who don't still end up there, but without spoilers.Idiggory 02:39, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Keep the name. Shepard had to earn the right to know her name. Sashamorning 21:35, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Don't move. There is a precedent. Jack's real name is Jacquelyn something or other, but her page is still at "Jack" not her real name. 76.226.137.85 19:42, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Jacqueline Nought is a pseudonym. Her birth name is Jennifer, but probably only Liara knows this, so there's not much reason to rename that article. - Sikon (talk) 16:13, December 24, 2013 (UTC)

Because the above comment was left after the proposal had expired, it is not taken into the vote tally. That said, Aryn2382, Stormkeeper, and Lancer1289 are for the move, while Matt913, Idiggory, and Sashamorning are against the move. Resulting in a 3-3 vote. Therefore the proposal is dead and the article will be kept as is. A new move proposal must wait at least one week after this comment is left per site policy. Lancer1289 01:00, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

The Destroyer

I recall someone (Mordin?) mentioning the Reaper guarding the Shroud was a modified version and was actually trying to use the Shroud for their own means. Anyone else remember this ? Stormkeeper 16:56, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

No. What I do remember is that they were simply trying to modify the Shroud to start killing everyone on the planet via poisoning of some sort, not that the Reaper that was there was modified for that purpose. --Aryn2382 17:10, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Mordin does say that it's a new type of Reaper, but he never says anything to suggest that it was modified for this purpose. I took his comment to mean that this reaper was different from Sovereign or the derelict one, which it was. But it's (at least visually) identical to the roaming reapers that attacked Earth. Plus, we know that Reapers are complex and grown from Organics, so I doubt that they'd be creating a new type for simple purposes (of course, that's taking "type" in its hardest form).Idiggory 02:42, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Saved data, Eve still died

I saved Maelon's data in Mass Effect 2 in my paragon playthrough, but Eve still died. Has this happened to anyone else. Is this a result of decisions made in ME3 or is it just a bug in ME3 that is not recognizing this specific decision?

Same thing happened to me; no idea what causes it. Very irritating. ~ Col Sanderson 03:52, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

you probably forgot to do Tuchanka: Bomb. Temporaryeditor78 04:06, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Same problem, even my import file says I saved Maelon's data. Every other quest that can be done first is done, including Bomb, which results in a different death for Eve (due to the bomb exploding, not the stress of developing the genophage cure). May be that one of the DLCs f-ed it up, not unheard of in BioWare's checkered past. Please don't cast aspersions on other posters without a shred of evidence. 'may have' is sufficient, 'probably' is rude. Especially if you haven't got the 'quads' to post with your own nick. GlassDeviant (talk) 08:05, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

was that jab directed at me? i'm actually amused rather than insulted at the insinuation i'm a sockpuppet. sh*t son word of advice check the site histories of who you're antagonizing first. may save you the indignation of eating your own words.

second point, there's only two of you (and apparently one unsigned anon) who purportedly experienced this kind of plot trigger screwup. site policy mandates at least three users reporting the issue before it can be admitted into the mission page as a bug or a note. guess what, if the random anon is not one of you two, this can be added as a bug already. and, i'd like to add, providing proper documentation of how that happened in your cases - as much as you may know - would certainly help if we were to replicate your issues and try to verify for ourselves. the fact this never happened in my playthroughs does not mean i (or any other interested party) am averse to testing your conditions if it is indeed possible. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 11:52, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

May have happened to whoever started this, but not me. I'm very thorough with sidequests, and this is my seventh playthrough. Other sources tell me it's an import bug, which I am inclined to believe. ~ Col Sanderson 00:18, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Same thing happened to me to did all side quests and saved data still happened if possible something must be done or screw up final ending. Proably import bug but still want fixed 4th time playing through. {{ 74.34.162.107 02:53, January 15, 2013 (UTC)}}}

Happened to me as well. Has been for a while, since the EC came out. Any ME2 saves I have before, on the 360, are fine. But any character I create afterwards, paragon playthroughs. Side quests all done, including bomb... warning her about sabotage, saving data, being nice to her... etc. She still dies! I bought the trilogy for my PS3, hoping that it wouldn't be effected. Wrong. She still dies there, too. I guess I'm cursed no matter what I do. I've had ONE Shepard where she didn't die, it was strange! Not sure what I did. But my next paragon playthrough had Eve die again. I just don't know. Import glitch, probably when the EC came out. 70.191.242.16 18:54, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

Happened to me too, need to use the save editors, find the Bool 1456 and set it to true. There has been more than 3 people confirming this yet Eve and/or Priority: Tuchanka says nothing of it. --Altrelo (talk) 15:45, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Shepard gets to kill Wrex in ME3?

Currently the page says, "If Shepard chose to save Maelon's data, then Eve will remain alive after the genophage cure quest line on Tuchanka, and the player will retain a "Krogan Clans" War Asset score of 300 (unless the player sided with the salarians and was forced to kill Wrex; this does not apply if Wreav is the Urdnot leader since Wreav does not discover the betrayal so neither do the krogan)." I changed it from Wrex to Mordin, because I thought it was an error. In the game, you have the option of killing Mordin to prevent the genophage cure. I don't know if a way to kill Wrex in ME3. However, my change got undone. So, is there a way to kill Wrex in ME3?

Yep. See here. TheUnknown285 09:27, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Da Bomb

if you dont do the bomb mission on tachunka you will get a message from wrex saying she died in an explosion in the kelphic valley --121.220.55.188 13:21, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

And the point of this is what exactly? Lancer1289 05:17, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

--82.231.203.67 18:06, July 9, 2012 (UTC) Eve died in my game even though I saved Maelon's data and did the bomb mission... WTF??? Anyone else have this issue? Thanks.

Trivia

Well, Bakara is english for benediction or blessing. Its very fitting, because Eve as well as bakara are deeply religiuos things. Bakara is a blessing inherent in People or objects, which can be attained by touching them or having contakt (kinda "rubbing off") Eve is a blessing for her people-not only is she the means to obtaining the cure for her people, but also caling their spirits and leading them into a better future.

I am pretty sure they chose that name, i can´t remember any other Krigan names that have a sense in our universe^^