After the collector ship trap the Illusive man says " You and all humans" not all of us, humanity, or something similar to include himself.

Sooooooo is he human at all? Any thoughts or am I reading too much into the words used?

I think you are reading to much into the words. While it is clear that his eyes are probably either cybernetic or something, he is human, as far as we know, and we have no reason to assume otherwise at this point. Again I think you are just reading too much into it. Lancer1289 15:17, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

There is actually an extensive discussion about this very subject on the Talk:Illusive Man page. The long and the short of it, there is plenty to suggest he's a plain old ordinary human, nothing really to suggest he isn't, and he doesn't say anything to hint that 'you and all humans' doesn't include himself. I've heard plenty of people in documentaries talking about how something would affect 'all humans' or 'all of humanity' and not once thought, wait, he didn't say 'all of us'. He's not human! The Illusive Man didn't include himself specifically by saying 'all of us' likely because he meant to only refer to humans, and Shepard's normal posse contains several aliens, who the Illusive Man didn't mean to include. And he didn't exclude himself either. SpartHawg948 17:31, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

• Ok, I lied. The discussion on the talk page isn't quite as 'extensive' as I remembered, but it's still been discussed there as well. SpartHawg948 17:34, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

I think I'll be dissapointed if he turns out to be something else other than human, I actually quite like his character, despite him being annoying every now and then. I think he is human, just enhanced cybernetically, maybe not only eyes but also brain, super memory, who knows. Setimir92 00:34, June 7, 2010 (UTC)